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GENERAL JV, JIV at ATS Info.. JIV and JV Alpine Program The JIV and JV alpine programs form the NYSEF development pipeline for building strong alpine athletes for the more competitive programs. The JV program is for athletes ages 7-10 as of 12/31/07. The JIV program is for athletes ages 11-12 as of 12/31/07. Most of the JIV and JV program participants' time is spent developing racing skills and technique and skiing in all types of conditions and on a variety of terrain. JV Athletes compete in the mountain World Cups. Whiteface athletes at Whiteface, Gore athletes at Gore. You can read more about this series below as well as the JIV Mountian Council Races.
TIPS TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE FUN The JV, JIV, Freestyle & ATS programs will begin on the lst Saturday of December. Athletes will be out on the hill at 8:30AM so please come to the training center with time to spare as the first days are rather busy. To make their experience successful please try to keep the following things in mind;
Make sure your athlete has a good breakfast Make sure that every night their boots and gloves are dry.
Pulling the inner boot bladder will ensure a dry boot. It takes a few times to get the technique down but is soooo worth it. We'd be happy to show you how to do this.
Make sure they have a helmet. It's required by NYSEF
Be patient the first weekend, especially with your athlete. We'll get them to their group as all coaches have radios.
Think mittens and neck warmers and goggles.Stay away from cotton socks and keep excess long johns out of the boot for proper fit.
Keep skis tuned
Groups depart the training center at 8:30AM and ski until 10:00 AM, when, on most days, they will take a break at Mid-Lodge for a hot chocolate. Whiteface Parents can put a hot chocolate packet in their kids pocket and we supply the cups and hot water so there is no charge. Skiing continues until 11:30am when they will take a lunch break at the main base lodge. We encourage a brown bag lunch. Parents should meet their children for lunch. If a child gets separated from their group reinforce that they come back to the training center where we can reach the coach via radio.
What is NYSEF? "It is the mission of the New York Ski Educational Foundation to provide opportunities for athletes of all ages to reach their potential in snow sports - alpine skiing, freestyle skiing, snowboarding, ski jumping, cross country skiing, nordic combined, and biathlon - through professional guidance and financial support."
What about equipment? The best thing you can do for your new ski racer is provide him or her with good equipment, especially boots. Lets start with Skis ....Skis should run to about nose height. Manufacturers have guidelines if you are buying new equipment. With used equipment be sure to go with the "shorter is better" rule. The days of over the forehead are gone. Now let's talk Boots . Boots are soooo important. The cuff height should be below mid shin and the flex very soft. One of the most challenging things for a small child is flexing their ankles and adding a stiff boot will only compound the problem. If you need to see if a boot fits try this.
Pull out the liner
Have the child put his/her foot in the boot (not the liner)
The child's toes should just touch the top of the boot
Have the child put all his weight on that foot
Have the child flex (bend) his/her knee
Then put your fingers behind his/her heel
With a young JV I would recommend no more than 2 fingers fit behind the heel, with a medium to light weight sock. Keep the wool socks for hiking. Remember good fit. It's like this with ski boots...When your child puts pressure on the side or front of the boot to start a turn the energy is transferred from the leg & foot to the ski. If the boot is too big all the energy is lost and what does the child think? I Can't Turn. Don't let this happen. Also, long underwear should be OUT of the boot and socks pulled up to keep from getting a tight spot or sore spot on the shin. Make sure you pull boot liner out at night to dry boots. Condensation from sweat and snow can make feet miserable. Keep Boot Fit!
How do I join NYSEF? If you'll send us your address, we'll send you information and enrollment forms around mid-August, or you can download the forms at www.nysef.org What is the winter schedule? Program dates: The program runs from the first weekend in December through mid-March, Sat & Sundays. Also, our pass price includes the Christmas Week, training every day if you choose, as well as an abbreviated training week during the February President Week vacation. What's the daily schedule? The program begins at 8:30 AM and ends at 2:00 PM. Parents meet their kids at 11:30 for their lunch break.
What is USSA? USSA is the United States Ski & Snowboard Association. It is the National governing body for US skiing.
Do I need to have a USSA Card/Licence? Yes. Every athlete needs to have a USSA card to be a member of NYSEF.
Where can I get an application for USSA? You can to to http://www.ussa.org/PublishingFolder/283_1570.htm or call them at 425.647.2666 or email them at membership@ussa.org .
What is NYSSRA? NYSSRA is the New York State Ski Racing Association. It is the official governing body for competition in the State of New York. Check it out at www.nyssra.org . (Remember we are NYSEF a non-profit 501(c)3 organization/club, New York SKI Educational Foundation supported by you!)
Do I need a NYSSRA card? Yes, to compete at any Alpine ski race in NY State you must hold a NYSSRA license. Quotas to state teams are also based on NYSSRA membership. You can download an application at www.nyssra.org . This is for racers only. First time ATS and Freestylers do not need this membership Are there any other cards I need? No.
What races will my JV (ages 7-10) attend? There is a series specifically for the JV's at both Gore and Whiteface called the "World Cup". This is a laid-back, intro to racing series, where kids come in pick up a bib and go race. If they fall and time permits we encourage them to take another run. The results are based on "best run". There is no charge for these races.
Will I have to travel to any races? There 2 races that happen on the same day at Mt. Pisgah. They are part of the "Whiteface World Cup" . We encourage athletes to try to make this race because we hold 2 that day. It's a great area and lots of fun. Athletes will need to purchase a Pisgah lift ticket. (Usually around $10) The other races that JV's can race in that are not part of the Whiteface or Gore World Cup are listed on www.nyssra.org . they are called "Open Races". We do not encourage a lot of travel for these athletes as they miss valuable ski and training time when they do.
What "Open Races" , if any, do NYSEF JV's athletes ski in? There are a few races that JV's like to participate in. They are the Kandahar that happens at Gore, the Hovey Memorial at Whiteface and sometimes the Gore Spring Open. Whiteface and Gore coaches will be at these races to help athletes. Coaches are the resource for this info.
Can I go to an "Open Race in, say, Vermont? Yes. You can participate in any open race through out the country with the proper licenses (USSA & NYSSRA) and depending on the space availability at the race.
If I do pick an "Open Race" out of the norm, will there be a coach there to help? If there is a group of kids going we will usually supply a coach. Check with your child's coach to be sure.
Where is the schedule for the Whiteface JV races? You can find it at www.nysef.org/JVpage.htm soon.
Can I use a JV race as a volunteer day? JV races are not an "official" volunteer day. Not to say we can't use your help.
What's a volunteer day? Everyone pays a $250 work deposit upon enrollment with NYSEF, when you've volunteered for 2 days you are reimbursed the $250. You will receive a volunteer card with your enrollment forms, just have is authorized from the race secretary the days of the events you volunteer and send it to NYSEF, PO Box 300, Wilmington, NY 12997 and Jane will send you back your $250.
What is the Whiteface Family Picnic? The family picnic falls mid-March. It is held in the back of the Whiteface cafeteria. All our Junior athletes and their parents are invited. We ask you to bring a dish to share. A sign up sheet will be in the training center. Cumulative points are totaled for the JV's and our ATS group and every athlete receives a trophy, even if they've only participated in one race. There is also a prize table for the JV's and ATS kids. Other athletes are welcome but please bring food!!!!
Is there anything else I can do to help with the Whiteface JV Picnic? We need parents to help set up the food tables and to donate items for the prize table. Some of the past items donated include: water bottles, hats, ski socks, small games, headbands, goggle squeegies just to name a few.
Can my JV race in JIV (ages 11-12) races? NYSSRA is allowing JV's to race with JIV's, however NYSEF encourages moderation with this as it uses up time that could be spent skiing and training. Suggestions would be... our Whiteface & Gore JV's participate in our Gore and Whiteface JIV races.
Will there be a coach for my JV at the JIV race? Yes, however it may not be his or her "official coach" but a JIV coach.
How do I sign up for races? There is no need to sign up for the JV "World Cup" Races at Gore or Whiteface, however, races such as the Hovey the Kandahar and other "Open Races" require advanced registration even though they might be at your home mountain. Find the appropriate mountain information in the back of the NYSSRA guide and 2 weeks prior to the race send in the race entry form and a check for the amount of the race, or visit http://www.nysef.org/registrationWF.htm. Race fee's can also be found on the NYSSRA site www.nyssra.org .
What is the most important thing I can do as a new JIV Parent? Be sure to have both USSA & NYSSRA memberships before the first race and be sure to send in Race Entry cards. It makes it a lot easier for everyone on race day.
Where can I find race entry cards? You can find JIV entry forms at www.nyssra.org under member services tab.
If I send in a race entry should I call to see if the club has received it? Usually most entries are received and processed. NYSEF posts received registrations on our web site. For all other mountains visit www.nyssra.org. Try to use our web-site to check your registrations arrival as the office is very very busy the days prior to a race.
How do I find the JIV races? If you go to www.nyssra.org you'll find a schedule for the Mountain Council Races and fees are listed there. NYSEF athletes race only the Mountain Council Series. These are the races that JIV's use to try to qualify for State Championships.
What are the Councils? These athletes race in their council. We are the Mountain Council. There are a total of 6 councils in NY.
Where is the best place to start reading about the JIV Council Races? I call it my bible, the NYSSRA Competition Manual. You will receive this with your membership to NYSSRA. If you read anything, read the center section of the manual (the pages are tan). I keep my book in my desk and no one in the NYSEF office touches it! You can also get this information and a whole lot more on the nyssra site. www.nyssra.org
This program is a competitive program for athletes ages 11-14. It's designed for kids who have not yet competed in either Alpine Racing or Freestyle and would like to discover which direction he/she would like to go. This program is based at Whiteface only and skiers need to be intermediate skiers to participate.
Are the ATC program hours the same? Yes, the ATC athletes participate from 8:30AM-2:00PM with a break at 10:00 and lunch at 11:30.
What does the winter calendar look like for these kids? Races and Freestyle Mogul competitions are minimal with competition mostly intermural at Whiteface. If an athlete really wants to pursue either disciple after they have started the ATS program it is not a problem to move them. The program begins the first Saturday of December and includes Christmas Week and an abbreviated February Presidents Week.
Does my ATC athlete need any other memberships other than NYSEF? No, however, if you're athlete decides to race or compete in a freestyle event that is a sanctioned event then some memberships are needed. A USSA membership for both freestyle and alpine racing and NYSSRA membership for racing. Check out www.nyssra.org and www.ussa.org to download forms.
What is USSA? USSA is the United States Ski & Snowboard Association. It is the National governing body for US skiing.
What is NYSSRA? NYSSRA is the New York State Ski Racing Association . It is the official governing body for competition in the State of New York. Check it out at www.nyssra.org . (Remember we are NYSEF a non-profit 501(c)3 organization/club, New York SKI Educational Foundation supported by you!)
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